sbuchanan Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Well we have finally arrived at true 64 bit processing and the capability to utilize more then 2gb or ram. Please tell me that IronCAd is ready to announce the vista ready hotfix Anyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary OConnor Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Currently IronCAD will not install or run on Vista. We are looking into the feasibility to have a version that will run on Vista. As for the 64 Bit, I don't think you get it for free by just running on Vista. I think the application has to be built for 64 bit support which we are looking to have for v10. We will keep the community updated if we can deliver a Vista patch based on our investigations. Thanks, Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuchanan Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 Currently IronCAD will not install or run on Vista. We are looking into the feasibility to have a version that will run on Vista. As for the 64 Bit, I don't think you get it for free by just running on Vista. I think the application has to be built for 64 bit support which we are looking to have for v10. We will keep the community updated if we can deliver a Vista patch based on our investigations. Thanks, Cary 16855[/snapback] Any idea when it will be a priority? I first asked about this over a year ago. Solidworks Vectorworks I am not as interested in the 64bit as I am in the memory capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Twining Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Are you already familiar with the /3GB startup switch? You can utilize up to the 4GB memory (I believe that is the max recognized by 32-bit windows... anyone?). It works GREAT if you are experiencing any of the "out of memory" errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuchanan Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 Yes, I am using that right now, but I do not use my machine for IronCAD alone. I am satisfied with the performance I am getting now, I am currently running AMD64 x2 4800, SLY 7600'sa and 4gb of dar400 RAM. in our workstations. We use them for graphic design and IronCAD. I have just been putting off building our new "Vista ready" workstations until I get the OK from Cary and the team at IC. Microsoft has been working out the permissions and drivers for Vista via beta releases for well over a year and that is the only reason I have have posted here multiple times about a "Vista" timeline. Adobe CS3 will be released very soon and it is built to take advantage of multiple cores and 64 bit processing. I know that IronCAD does not have to engineering staff or budget (like Adobe) to reinvent the wheel, but I have received the same reply for over a year "We are looking into it" Don't get me wrong, I love IronCAD. I have been one of the biggest IronCAD cheerleaders in our "very large" company user network. I just get scared of every version release. We have experienced new, even worse issues that are unrelated the the original fixes in the last release and PU1. These issues are things that slow down our company and can cause mistakes which cost money. No, I am not talking about a hotkey issue . In the end I guess I just want it all, but obviously that is not an option. But having things work the way they are designed to, without having to pay for another release to fix them sounds logical. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlehnhaeuser Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Heres some news that may put a damper on Vista. http://aecnews.com/news/2007/01/31/2240.aspx tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Andersson Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Heres more: http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/200..._runs_cad_.html Vista wants 3D software to use Direct X instead of Open GL. Open GL is a long time industy standard for 3D accelaration, but Microsoft wanted to create their own system, so now there are 2 competing technologies, making developers use both in many cases. 3DCAD system CAN use Open GL in Vista but it have some drawbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary OConnor Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Steve, I'm still unclear on your push to vista. Vista alone is not giving you any advantage. 64 Bit is unrelated to vista. 64 bit is supported on XP and Vista. We will have 64 bit support for v10 late Q2/early Q3. if you want 64 on vista you have to buy 64 bit vista. They have both 32 and 64 vista versions. The comments on the post about vista slow is related to Direct X and OpenGL. Vista is pushing Direct X and not opengl. That's why it is slow and many people commented on this way before the release. Anyway. V10 of ironcad will have a new rendering engine that will support direct x and opengl so we should run fast on both. So just having vista at this point may be a bad option for gl usage (software should be the same performance). Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Andersson Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 "There are legitimate reasons to be concerned about using Vista as a platform for CAD, not the least of which is that it has demanding minimum hardware requirements. Acceptable CAD performance under Vista is going to require new top-of-the-line hardware. Yet, even with the right hardware, CAD performance under Vista is going to remain an open question for a while longer. Microsoft pushed hard to get Vista shipped, but important components, such as display drivers and development tools, are still buggy and incomplete. It will likely be many months before these problems will be shaken out." -Guest writer Evan Yares is the former executive director of the Open Design Alliance and, before that, a CAD industry analyst. taken from here: http://aecnews.com/news/2007/02/01/2242.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlehnhaeuser Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 It looks like a thumbs down on all accounts for Vista. 10 top reasons niot to move to Vista: http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/gizmos/2...easons_to_.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Urban Olars Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Let's hope that we can run IronCAD and all the other software we need on Linux in the future instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cdeveaux Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I second that motion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas@Solidmakarna Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 (edited) Has anyone tried a windows emulator for linux? Here's one: http://winehq.com/ Though it doesn't work for 64-bit hardware which I've installed ubuntu on =( I would like to see if IronCAD could run on it. My linux dedicated 32-bit hdd crashed just when I was about to install Ubuntu 6.10 on it. Edited February 5, 2007 by Jonas@Solidmakarna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabidi Ghani Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I second that motion! 16886[/snapback] I second that motion too. I've got request from customers to run IronCAD on linux. In M'sia, the government is pushing hard for the implementation of linux through out the government agencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuche Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Will IronCAD10 be able to use the 8gb of ram that vista allows? That would be sweet if it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabidi Ghani Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Is IC9.1 ready for Vista? IC installation crashes once installed on a Vista. Error messages are similar to when you try to intall IC on a XP Home. Problem is, SONY has stop shiping VAIOS with XP Pro. Clients are asking why can't we since they can install SolidWorks on XP Home & Vista. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabidi Ghani Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Here's more reason not to use Vista: "Windows Vista includes an array of "features" that you don't want. These features will make your computer less reliable and less secure. They'll make your computer less stable and run slower. They will cause technical support problems. They may even require you to upgrade some of your peripheral hardware and existing software. And these features won't do anything useful. In fact, they're working against you. They're digital rights management (DRM) features built into Vista at the behest of the entertainment industry - And you don't get to refuse them." Full article can be read at http://badvista.fsf.org/what-s-wrong-with-...t-windows-vista No wonder SONY stop shipping XP machines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdewolf Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 the question still stands. How soon before Ironcad will run on Vista? Not whether vista is good, bad, or indifferent. I run probably 50 or 60 applications at least and they are either working unaltered or they have fixed the issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary OConnor Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 At the earliest it will be version 10 due to my statments earlier on the rendering issues and the installation changes. If the installation changes go well, then we may release at the same time as 10, if not, we will release shortly after v10. Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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