Suppressed part on BOM

[Guest jkim522093]

I'm not so sure if this was touched already here in the forum or not.

When create the draiwng, suppressed parts/assemblies are not shown in the

drawing, but they are on BOM.

To avoid this, we should make the configuration first and then tick the

"Use Configuration" in "Create BOM or Template" dialog as following fig.

Or we should off "Include BOM" tick in properties for that suppressed

parts/assemblies which is not in common because they should be included in BOM

in other drawing such as whole assembly.

 

So I think it would be better to make suppressed parts/assemblies not be shown

in BOM in the drawing as a basic mechanism in IronCAD.

By doing this, users could not have to make configuration and save time.

 

What do you think???

 

JH

[Cary OConnor]

It should not be a default. Perhaps an option but not the default to not show suppressed items.

 

Cary

[Jonas@Solidmakarna]

Yes, please make an option on the BOM where you choose to NOT show suppressed objects in it.

[Guest jkim522093]

Yes, great to have an option to include or exclude the suppresed part from BOM by ticking that option.

 

JH

[dhovatter]

Already have option to have or not in part/assembly properties in scene, it include or exclude from BOM.

 

Are you wanting to do it at later time when producing the drawing in stead of doing it while in scene mode?

 

[Cary OConnor]

Yes they are requesting the option on the BOM creation to exclude suppressed items.

 

 

Cary

[Cary OConnor]

You do know if you select Default as the configuration, it will not include the suppressed items.

 

By default, we select no configuration selected which counts all items even if suppressed. If you select Default, the suppressed items will not be calculated (this is the default config in the scene).

 

If this is the case, do we still need an option?

 

Cary

[Jonas@Solidmakarna]

I didn't know about that, at least I didn't remember it. That seems to solve it I guess.

Why can't the Default configuration be the default selected one to start with when creating BOMs?

 

Can you please explain what the "No configuration selected" is really useful for?

 

Thanks,

[Guest jkim522093]

You do know if you select Default as the configuration, it will not include the suppressed items.

 

By default, we select no configuration selected which counts all items even if suppressed. If you select Default, the suppressed items will not be calculated (this is the default config in the scene).

 

If this is the case, do we still need an option?

 

Cary

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Yes, we know that.

Basically, in order not to have the suppressed item on BOM, we should create the Configuration first.

But with the option to include or exclude the suppressed item on BOM, then we

don't have to create the configuration.

Then I could make the view for wanted parts/assys by choosing that parts/assys in

"Select Part/Assembly To Project", and then create the BOM with the option

to "exclude the suppressed item on BOM".

But "Select Part/Assembly To Project" is based on the view not file, so parts are

not shown in view must not be actually suppressed in file.

Then this must be some complicated thing to implement.

Hmmmmmm

 

JH

 

[Cary OConnor]

J.H.,

 

You don't need to create a configuration. You just set the "Default" as the configuration to use. It is already created in the system.

 

 

The "No Configuration Selected" is used so that it captures all the parts for the BOM. Sometime things are suppressed and they should not be or someone suppressed something in a linked part and forgot to unsuppress it. So we take the approach to capture all by default.

 

Cary

[Guest jkim522093]

Cary,

 

Understood the purpose of "No Configuration Selected" with thanks.

 

You do know if you select Default as the configuration, it will not include the suppressed items.

This means the suppressed items in the file including configuration.

But if we choose, for example, one part in the browser left with tick the "Select

Part/Assembly To Project". Then we get the view for only that part.

But it does not mean that all other parts are "suppressed" in the file.

All other parts are just suppressed(unvisibile or just hide) in the view only.

So in this example, all the parts unsuppressed in Default configuration will be on

BOM.

That is why I need to create the configuration to have the synchronize the view

entity and BOM entity. And in this example, I have to create the configuration

first which have all other parts are suppressed except that part.

 

JH

[Cary OConnor]

Yes the select part/assembly does not filter out parts in the BOM. That command is really hiding the data (not suppressing it) which is the correct behavior by default. It was designed to allow the user to create mulitple sheet drawings of single parts/assemblies and a final full assembly with the BOM in a single scene enviornment. In tis case, you would not build mulitple BOM's.

 

What you are after is the view based BOM which is a filed request.

 

Thanks

Cary

[Guest jkim522093]

Thanks Cary.

Just an idea for this.

What about adding the same tick box with the list named "Select Parts/Asseys To

be included in BOM' as in Standrad View creation window.

Then user can create the BOM for Configuration by choosing the wanted

configuration list, or just select the parts/assy with the above tickbox.

Then user does not have to take care of file based suppressed or view based suppressed.

 

JH

[Cary OConnor]

If only it was that easy...we have a great more to deal with (item bubbles and many other items) if we want to support a view based configuration.

 

Thanks for the idea anyway

 

Thanks

Cary