Christian Skytte Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi, When I place a radius on a circle it confuses me that IC "randomise" the way it chooses to place the lines Inside or Outside!! In the attached jpeg You'll see what I mean! On the circles with the radii 2,54 and 7,54 it chooses to be Inside! On the three others it somehow wants to be Outside ...Whats the big idea? 'Cus it sux! And you can't even see the arrow on the radius 2,54!! c_skytte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cdeveaux Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Yes, this has always annoyed me. Worse yet, it disobeys the setting in "Dimension Properties" set for that purpose. When I say I want it inside or outside, the dimension should OBEY THE SETTING!!! (I hate it when computer program disobey commands, don't you?) It has been like this forever, since 3.2 at least. Oh, and sometimes I need to force the arrow to display even if it would not by default, normally. I want to be the one to decide if it is worth displaying or not. So the first is a bug report (as far as I am concerned, if it ignores a setting, that is a bug), the second is an enhancement request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Skytte Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 (edited) NOW I'm really pissed! I've made some spin shape and now I can't place a radius or a diameter on lines, which is curving inwards!! In this pic you'll see what I mean It is working ALL RIGHT (as U can see) with the dimension on the outside, but the other way IT JUST DON'T WORK!! ...WHAT THE F@#K is going on????? STOP RELEASING THIS CRAPPY BETA PRODUCT!!! - UNTIL IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!! PLEASE!! If you don't you win the BUG awards! C. Edited February 1, 2006 by Christian Skytte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgrein Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hello Christian I have had the same problem. If you create a section view through the center, then you can dimension the radius you are unable to now. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IronKevin Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Your "strange" dimension is an inside set Diameter dimension. Here's an image of inside radius and outside diameter dims. Beyond that I don't see a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgrein Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hello Kevin Try to dimension to the other radius shown. IronCAD will not let you do it unless you create a cross-section view. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IronKevin Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Sorry, I understand now, this is a real problem that has existed for a long time. IK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Skytte Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Hi Wayne! (and the rest of you!) Tanx for the hint!! I have just tried it out and it seems to work but Im NOT over welled at all!! I simply cannot understand why a simple thing like that (AMONG MANY OTHERS) just doesnt get fixed?? I have worked with this program for a month now (that doesnt make me an expert) and on the training course they told me that this community existed! To be honest I didnt think it was important to know at all BUT I WAS TERRIBLE WRONG!! Because I have spend a lot of time waiting for PUs and Hotfixes day after day!! I have been working with a couple of other CAD programs (Solid Edge (5 years), Pro/E (1½ year)), and I NEVER had to contact any community or help centre to help me with some common or everyday used-operations to make a CAD program work!! I am VERY apprehensive about the future! I still cant figure out why it is such a major problem to for the developer (of IC) NOT to correct so annoying and irritating problems for the users!! We are the reason why you exist, do something about it! Wayne? Dont get me wrong Im not trying to take it out on you!! ;o) But trying to make them lean forward and support their customers!! In expectation of BIG reformation..! Christian Skytte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgrein Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Hello Christian I agree with you. I have only been using IronCAD for about 1 year & have also been very pissed at the simple things that do not work. I hope version 9 will correct this and many more simple, but annoying things. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IronKevin Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Hello Christian, Your complaints are common for all CAD: But for mechanical engineering applications, design automation on special machinery areas - that's the area SolidWorks is proudly aiming at - you need to comply with drawing standards and also with company standards. And you have to complete your work _on time_. And these are the areas where SolidWorks sucks. There are immense problems with the customisation but sadly a number of _basic_ features are missing as well. And, sadly again, there is no sign that this message would get through to SolidWorks at all. Janos Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsulli555357 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) I use SolidWorks and IronCAD and believe me, there are many simple and quick things that IronCAD does that Solidworks people can only dream of. Try rotating a plane with a sketch on it, especially if the plane is one of the basic, set-in-stone ones. I'm not saying that IC is perfect, but overall, it is far less frustrating than SW. 7:56 AM, Feb. 2nd: I changed a reamed hole size in an SW part from .3750 to .3125 inches, then went back to the 2D drawing. SW decided to make the hole callout .3130 inches. Why? who knows, but this is just another irritating bug that got past the whizzes at SW....... Edited February 2, 2006 by dsulli555357 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Twining Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) What is the default kernel of your part, and what is the precision on your drawing view (i.e. Draft mode, or Precise mode)? If they aren't already set to 'em, change the default model kernel to Parasolid, and make sure the drawing is set to "Precise Mode" and give her another try. In my experience, this is the best combination of model and drawing settings such that all the lines come out right and all the geometry that *SHOULD* be dimensionable is... Edited February 2, 2006 by Mike Twining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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