Can anybody tell me the use of postioning a cutout and NOT have that punch positioned with respect to the flat. I see that it is the default, but I don't see a need or benefit to not have it this way all the time. That being said, just because it is positioned with respect to the flat does not give it the ability to MODIFY that cutout in the unfolded sheet. In reference back to my original V-Notch, there are no cutouts creating that, there are some modified cross sections, after unfolding I would like to take this notch that is created and form it to be consistant with our tooling. If I tried to create that as a custom shape......yeah right, like I could get the modify affect bends to work across all of those bends. This is just one prominent example of the need to modify the unfolded sheetmetal. I know I harp on this issue over and over, but it was promised long ago when we first bought into IronCAD, and it still is not where we need it. As a predominantly sheetmetal company, this issue is far and away the most important issue we face. Although I feel IronCad is one of the best CAD systems out there for mid range modelers, this issue is important enough to force us to go away from IronCAD if it is not addressed.