Jukka Karhula Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Can you please give us some kind of IronCAD Workstation Recommendations. Like in the techletter Q1 2004. There were 4 different configuration (minimum, entry, mid range & high end). I'm looking for a "High End" workstation, but not sure what to buy? One thing is sure, it must be with XP !! Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKevin Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Vista is now supported but so is XP so you have the choice now. We have only maintained the minimum system requirements since hardware is changing so fast. What I recommend customers use as a baseline is the Dell Precision workstation web site. They have a range of systems that you can use as a specification guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary OConnor Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Use 64bit if possible. It will allow you the ability to access more RAM based on your budget. Also, a good Mid-High or High level CAD level graphics card is a good choice. Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Twining Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) I'm looking for a "High End" workstation, but not sure what to buy? One thing is sure, it must be with XP !! 23854[/snapback] I would recommend a few things for a "High-End" machine: #1) 64-Bit OS (XP is available) #2) Multiple CPU cores and/or chips (2 is nice... 4 is nicer ) #3) Fill every available Memory slot with the biggest and fastest memory you can afford (you should be in the 8Gb range) #4) Nvidia Quadro based video Card (512Mb Vid RAM MIN...1GB is nicer) #5) Large 10K RPM (with a low seek time) hard drive(s).... if you are really looking for a hot-rod, you should consider several identical FAST drives in a RAID array (RAID 5 is generally the performance & tolerant array of choice) that will give you both speed and redundency. For a little RAID info, you can read this: Wikipedia Entry #6) Spacemouse <-- You know what I mean if you have one. ...and just as a measuring stick, a "High-End" machine should be costing you $3K+ to build your own... and probably closer to $5K if you order or lease one from Dell. Edited March 11, 2009 by Mike Twining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukka Karhula Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 #6) Spacemouse <-- You know what I mean if you have one. 23858[/snapback] I've been using spacemouse for 5 years, and in 3D-world that is a better innovation than mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKevin Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 All this spacemouse talk got me using one again, very nice. NOTE: The Sapceball and Spacemouse (maybe others) will crash IronCAD on Vista 64 after pressing the same button multiple times, we are looking into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlehnhaeuser Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 FYI - 2D shapes will make your SpaceXXX freak out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Twining Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 NOTE: The Sapceball and Spacemouse (maybe others) will crash IronCAD on Vista 64 after pressing the same button multiple times, we are looking into this. 23869[/snapback] ...also the "Spacebar Key" command through the SpaceMouse will crash IC 11.1.0.Vista.64 on the first click (at least it does for me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKevin Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Tom, what OS spec are you seeing the 2D Shape/Spacemouse conflict? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlehnhaeuser Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) Tom, what OS spec are you seeing the 2D Shape/Spacemouse conflict? 23873[/snapback] XP Pro 32-bit, its been like this as longer as Ic supported SpaceXXX's. Edited March 12, 2009 by tlehnhaeuser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKevin Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 The 2D Shape problem must be a specific "card/chipset type" issue since it isn't the common experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalls558626 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 On the subject of the spaceball.....It has always been a problem when zooming close into something, that it does not move in a fine enough increment, or speed, to be very useful. It gets real jerky when zoomed into something small. I have been using the spaceball for many many years, and it has always done this. I have asked for this to be looked at, but never got any response to the request. It still is the best thing in the world to use, but I am hoping that this problem gets looked at and a solution is found, as I know this is not a problem with other CAD systems. By the way, I use both a spacepilot, and the spacetraveler. Anyone else have this issue???I assume everyone that uses one has this issue, but you never know. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKevin Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I'm not seeing this with the Spacemouse and 3Dxware version 5.9.2, zoomed in to where the screen was .08 inches diagonally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Twining Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) On the subject of the spaceball.....It has always been a problem when zooming close into something, that it does not move in a fine enough increment, or speed, to be very useful. It gets real jerky when zoomed into something small. I have been using the spaceball for many many years, and it has always done this. I have asked for this to be looked at, but never got any response to the request. It still is the best thing in the world to use, but I am hoping that this problem gets looked at and a solution is found, as I know this is not a problem with other CAD systems. By the way, I use both a spacepilot, and the spacetraveler. Anyone else have this issue???I assume everyone that uses one has this issue, but you never know. Mike 23899[/snapback] On the back of my SpaceMouse, it has a little decoder key that indicates various key-combinations. A few of those are "Gain" (or sensitivity) for Translation and Rotation. I use this a bunch when switching between HUGE (physical size) models, like a Dry Dock, and TINY models (like a bolt...). I've noticed that I use the rotation adjustment WAY more than I use the translation. I don't know if you have such functions on those variations of the Space(thingy), but if not, you may want to sacrifice a button or two in the control panel to adjusting the sensitivity. ...so, YES. I also have had this problem. And Kev- Open a dimentionally giant model, and a dimentionally tiny model (at the same time) in IronCAD. When you switch between the two (and when in the Giant model, try to do something on a small scale), you will notice the sensitivity problem. Edited March 17, 2009 by Mike Twining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary OConnor Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Mike, Can you take a screen capture avi to show the problem? Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EricFoy Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Hmmmm... just pondering here... Could it be that this problem really has nothing to do with the Space(thingy), but is simply a manifestation of IronCAD's inherent zoom range limitation? I've always noticed that when you wanna really get in close, you must not only zoom, but also dolly up in there. Now, if you're working on a watch spring, and you want to get in there and put on a .012 radius, that doesn't require much zoom, since you're probably already looking at it from a distance of a few inches. But if you're working on an oil derrick, and you want to grind a half-inch chamfer on the edge of a fish-plate, then chances are you'll be zooming in from a distance of a couple hundred feet, so you need to use dolly in conjunction with zoom - otherwise the display gets all jiggy on you. This is what I have observed, whether I'm using a space(doodad) or not. UPDATE: Okay... I just opened up a semi-large file, and tried a few things. I was wrong. What happens is that when I unsupress a cylinder of 500 ft (6000 inches), my Space(whatzit) suddenly cranks its gain way up for translations only. Rotations seem to stay nice and smooth. Suppress the cylinder, and it goes back to "nice and smooth." Unsupress... instant "rip and jagg." Suppress... smooooth as silk, baby. Unsupress... "Ouch!" Supress... "Ahhhhh." Yep. It's repeatable: Large-extents entities alter the the behavior of Space(stuff). Edited March 17, 2009 by EricFoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Twining Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Mike, Can you take a screen capture avi to show the problem? Cary 23903[/snapback] Unfortunately... no. Sorry. Erics got it pretty well covered I believe. (And apparently I had my translations and rotations all catty-wompus). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalls558626 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Yup, I should have been more clear on that one. If you have a larger model, dimensionally, and you try to get in close to say a small screw on it, you will notice the problem. It does seem to be a screen ratio problem. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKevin Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Thanks Eric, I see it now. I'll file a bug report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EricFoy Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Okay... Thought I'd use this thread, since it is appropriately titled. I've become totally lost in this world of cpu's. I just can't keep up anymore. Plus, my brain is full, and I can't remember what I once knew. Anyway, can somebody please tell me if there is any reason my system shouldn't be running a 64-bit OS? The Microsoft website is of absolutely no help on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKevin Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I found this utility that tests if your processor is 64 bit capable: http://download3.vmware.com/software/wkst/...6.0.0-45731.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlehnhaeuser Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 OK, The image shows the spec of a new computer I'm considering. I want to have IronCAD blazing. Whats the consensus on this system. I know theres faster systems however I can get this at a great deal. I welcome any feedback. Thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary OConnor Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Well...SCSI drives are much faster still if you can get it. Plus I would prefer to have a Quadro card over the gaming GeForce cards. My thoughts. Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlehnhaeuser Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 thanjks Cary any iput is helpful. didn;t realize GeForce was for gaming and Quatro for CAD, thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlehnhaeuser Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 I have a client asking me for hardware recommendations. So here I go again, now with the intro of XG and 64 bit. I ask for any feedback from anyone who can recommend a IronCAD super machine without breakibng the bank. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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