tlehnhaeuser Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Kudos to the IronDudes!! just downloaded the new drivers for my IronCAD/Spaceball Marriage. It's awesome, Its good to blow the dust of my spaceball and make my IronCAD the ultimate tool. Thanks Guys...keep up the good work Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dorrington Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I think I just wet myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dorrington Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Wait. I think I'm drying off. Although there is really only one known issue, it's a doozy. (Rotation point not following part when panning) It does make it quite awkward to use. Any idea when this might be fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lohman Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 KNOWN ISSUES --------------- - The Center of Rotation (COR) will change locations when panning and zooming with the 3DConnexion devices (Current limitation with the IronCAD Camera tools). To reset the COR, we recommend having the Target Camera as an option on the 3D Devices to allow quick re-targeting of the COR. - Pan movement in the 2D drawing will not occur until a scroll region is available (Similar to current 2D Pan behavior). Scroll regions appear when zoomed in on a drawing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lohman Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 IronCAD/IronCAD6/Support/3Dconnexion/Readme.txt is the readme for the spaceball. NO, it isn't "easy" to find and YES, the support folder is NEW... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Ludin Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 OK - so it's probably time for me to get a spacemouse. Can anybody tell me what the differences are between the classic, plus and plusXT models and whether the additional features are supported by IronCAD? TIA, Beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Owens Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Just a minute Beat, What about your other toys? What happened with VisualMill 4 and your new router? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Ludin Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Andy - That's a rather sad story. When the router finally got installed with much delay, it didn't perform quite as well as advertised (to put it mildly). After a bit of a fight, the manufacturer is now going to provide us with a upgraded model that should at least approach the specs we've been given originally. That's taking a while though. I'll let you know as soon as I have something (good) to say. Beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dorrington Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 I heard something about an upcoming SP release. Any chance on the camera fix (COR) for the SpaceBall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rbame Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Is anyone using a programmable MS 5 button mouse? Reprogramming my thumb buttons to the Tri-Ball and zoom extents as the smaller thumb button. The middle scroll button controls all camera angles so what is the deal with a space mouse? I have also reprogrammed my keyboard for hot keys with my left hand, like a,s,d,f,z,x,c,v? Note: it only works with the 5 button MS mouse, which will allow you to program buttons specific to a particular program.. so what is the deal with a space mouse? It will not work with the Logitech 5 button mouse, I have tried it.. I would recommend this setup to anyone and would like to know what the fuss is about a space mouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dorrington Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 The Spacemouse and the SpaceBall are different products. The SpaceBall is for more serious users or those with bigger wallets. These products do not replace your mouse! They are supplemental control devices which allow you to work with both hands. You still need a mouse. A mega-button mouse or whatever will never do what a SpaceBall will do. Unfortunately it is difficult to explain the pleasure of using a properly configured Spaceball. EdgeCams first implementation at V7.5 was ok (zooming previously required a window select) but they got it right at V7.75. Amazing control of the model. We constantly switch back and forth between Cad and Cam. Having a consistent user interface would be a blessing. As it stands now, the SpaceBall is not useable in IronCad. You can't switch from a program that "works" to one that does "not work". I hope that this will be fixed and that this was not just a quick implementation to quell the voices of the peasants. My response to "I ... would like to know what the fuss is about a space mouse?" would be that unless you have tried using one then you could not possibly understand "the fuss". Read the stuff at Logitech. The awards and accolades from the various Cad/Cam magazines and over 200,00 users should give some clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_temple Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Thank goodness for SpaceBall implimentation in IC. Now it really is the fasetet, easiest program I have ever used. Is the space ball's function in drafting the same as other programs in this range? The only other program I have used a SpaceBall with is UG and its performance in UG drafting is much more intuitive. The sheet essentially behaves like a model but with rotations disabled (push away, pull closer, pull up moves the drawing up, left or right push to pan). Is anyone else having trouble with the SpaceBall in drafting mode? Any suggestions? Injection mold, jig and fixture design. www.QuickCAD.biz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Twining Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Yeah... I tried using it in the drawing mode, but I find that the axies (whatever the plural of axis is) seem reversed for some of the operations. In 3D, one uses the spaceball to control the part (move the ball toward you, and the part moves toward you...i.e. zoom in), however, in the 2D, it seems that the spaceball controlls the camera (pull the ball towards you and the drawing moves AWAY...i.e. zoom out). Since the drawing functionality is opposite what it is in the scene, I have just gone back to the mouse in 2d so that I won't get confused when I go back to working in 3d. I, for one, would like to see the drawing controlls switched so the user is controlling the drawing and not the camera (if you will), just to be consistent with the scene controlls. MikeT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_temple Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Mike, Thanks for suggesting that the spaceball controls the camera in drafting. The drawing behavior makes a lot more sense now, thinking of it from the camera's POV but I just can't get used to it. I also cast a vote for changing the drawing behavior to match the spaceball functionality in modeling, move the drawing, not the camera. Also it seems like the sheet behavior is bound in some way to the sheet edge. I see how keeps you on the page but its confusing to be zooming out and all of a sudden there's panning you don't expect. Also when the whole sheet fits within the viewport you can't pan. I see the logic in this sort of "assist" but in practice it diminishes the simple intuitiveness of the spaceball. Injection mold, jig and fixture design. www.QuickCAD.biz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmccall Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Well... I just borrowed a spaceball from a friend... so far I like it... got to get use to it. It is the 4000FLX. I noticed during the download that there are older types listed, and by the setup it looks like you can check the IC 6.0 drivers for them. Has anyone used the older 3003 or 2002 spaceball for IC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlehnhaeuser Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 We have the 400FLX and have no problems withthe Ic drivers. Tom Tom Lehn... Magnacad Design Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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