jloach Posted March 28, 2002 Author Share Posted March 28, 2002 Damn. IC5HF2 just froze again. Same symptoms as before, but without AutoCad (MD4) loaded. Next step is to try a graphics card other than FireGL2. Jumped the gun on XP, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dorrington Posted March 28, 2002 Share Posted March 28, 2002 You know what Microsoft says, " Enjoy the XPerience". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloach Posted March 28, 2002 Author Share Posted March 28, 2002 Ya. Fun. Got a Matrox G550 in now. It actually performs quite nicely. Smooth It's hard to justify spending more than $500 more for a Fire GL2! No freezes yet, but I'll give it a few days. I've got ATI tech support on the line now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloach Posted March 28, 2002 Author Share Posted March 28, 2002 OK. ATI recommends the following BIOS settings: Increase Graphics Aperature Size from default of 32MB to 256MB. Disable AGP 4X support, so that AGP runs in 2X only. The Fire GL2's back in. We'll see how things go. Thank you all for your patience, but if this gets solved it'll be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaas Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 changed bios to agp 2x and 256, didn`t help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EricFoy Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Just an idea here... I have a single athlon 1900+ system that was flakey running XP until I loaded the MB chipset drivers that came with the motherboard. I now enjoy unfettered high speed IronCAD. Could your troubles stem from this fairly new dual processor technology and all of its associated complexity? AGP 2x !?!? After shelling out all that cash for a high-zoot card, you get to cripple it? Bummer. For the record, I am using the ATI Radeon 7500 (it's cheap), and overall display performance seems pretty good. Also, my last computer had a habit of freezing solid with no warning, no blue screen - nothing. Then I read about a bios fix for it. Whaddya know... it worked! So, be sure to keep checking your MB vendor for bios updates. You never know... -Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nvikanes Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Chris Lohman: Njal do you have a FireGL2 card also? Could this be a FireGL2 problem? Does anyone that is experiencing this problem have an alternate card that they could try? I'm running a Matrox g400 MAX Yes, Diamond Fire GL2 (HEGA5) Njål id=quote>id=quote> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lohman Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 Njal has a FireGL2 also, it's beginning to look like a FireGL/XP thing no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wim Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 i`m sure its the fire gl2.I had my new system running for 2 weeks with my old card(gloriaII) because ther was a deliverytime of three weeks on the fire gl, and i had no trouble until i installed the fire gl2. I had trouble with the drivers from the beginning: the drivers from ati for xp didnt work at all, I downloaded the IBM-drivers(where the card came from) and they worked,But with ironcad the trouble began rite from the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloach Posted April 3, 2002 Author Share Posted April 3, 2002 Another suggestion from ATI which seems to be working so far: Go to Display Properties / Advanced / Troubleshoot. Move the hardware acceleration slider from Full (far right) to one notch from the right. The text then reads "Disable cursor and bitmap accelerations. Use this setting ...". The display zooms and pans just as quickly, but it's very slightly less smooth. Not a problem at all. Apparently this setting allows the computer to continue to use hardware acceleration, but can resolve some mouse pointer conflicts. If this doesn't fix it, ATI suggested to then try unticking the "Enable write combining" box on the same page. My BIOS is back to AGP 4X, and the fingers are crossed ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloach Posted April 4, 2002 Author Share Posted April 4, 2002 Two full days without a problem after moving the hardware acceleration slider one notch to the left. So far so good ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloach Posted April 9, 2002 Author Share Posted April 9, 2002 Took a few days, but IronCad 5 locked up again on XP, with dual AMD MP 1900+, Asus A7M766D, and Fire GL2. Checked the AMD website for drivers again, and there's a new AGP driver posted (miniport_533.EXE) that supposedly fixes a few XP issues. It's now installed, and the video hardware acceleration slidebar is moved back to full. Cheers, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wim Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Had a lockup yesterday with the nodge 1 back. Today i installed the miniport 533 from amd, nodge full to the left, lockup again..... It always happens with panning/orbit/zoom.... (amd 2000 xp+,win xp pro, fire gl2 with ibm drivers for xp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloach Posted April 16, 2002 Author Share Posted April 16, 2002 Hi Wim I haven't had a lockup for a few days now, with dual AMD 1900+, XP Pro, FireGL2. After installing the miniport533, I also unchecked "Enable write combining" in the display troubleshoot window, and set the configuration profile to SolidWorks. I hope that helps. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloach Posted April 16, 2002 Author Share Posted April 16, 2002 Spoke too soon. About six minutes after writing the above post the darned thing froze on me again. It appears to be a problem associated only with AMD / XP / FireGL2 users, and the only thing that ever causes it, as Wim described, is starting a pan view in IronCad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloach Posted April 19, 2002 Author Share Posted April 19, 2002 Finally gave up. Reformatted the disk and installed Windows 2000. Sure wasted a lot of hours with XP!!!! Lethal combination: XP with AMD processor(s), FireGL2, and IronCad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lohman Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Hmm, I wonder if that's why Dell dropped the FireGL2 from the Precision line and offered the Quadro Pro around the same time XP came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dlalonde Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 The FireGL2 is still shown on the ati website (www.ati.com), BUT the reseller that I contacted could not get a price for it. Got prices FireGL4 and the 8000-series Radeon pro cards, but no GL2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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